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		<title>By: Moonage</title>
		<link>http://bowie.moonagewebdream.com/2006/06/05/quicksand/comment-page-1#comment-865</link>
		<dc:creator>Moonage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 13:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic comment.  Can&#039;t wait to hear some of your other thoughts!</description>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://bowie.moonagewebdream.com/2006/06/05/quicksand/comment-page-1#comment-864</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Bowie was saying he is a Nazi (living proof of Churchill&#039;s lies that the Nazi&#039;s had been vanquished) but that he is also disenchanted with the whole occult Nazi philosophy and scheme (I&#039;m frightened by the total goal, drawn toward the ragged hole). 

I also believe the whole album Hunky Dory pivots on this theme. 

Bowie had just had a kid and was wanting a happier simpler life and so was becoming critical and weary of the Nazi philosophy. He is not rejecting these ideas totally however and song for Bob Dylan is quite openly hostile to Dylan&#039;s Judaism and even accusing of Dylan (as a jew) of stealing his unity and (simpler) family (values). 

The reason I think people have so much trouble understanding this album is that they tend to be very black and white about things like Nazism and secret societies and so it is hard to see that a person can be a Nazi but also be growing tired and cynical about the whole thing. 

The Bewlay brothers seems very plainly about whoever was running the occult society meetings Bowie was part of - including references to where they were held and what went on at them. Again the tone is jaded weary and even somewhat frightened - but still there is the sentimental memory of what these meetings once evoked in him in the past. 

I am not certain about the Velvet Underground song Queen Bitch but I think it might be Bowie kind of lamenting that he didn&#039;t join that scene instead - because as he says in the song &quot;Oh lord I could do better than that&quot; so maybe Queen bitch is Andy Warhol - mentioned again but veiled - and Bowie is saying he could have taken over that scene (it could have been me - why didn&#039;t I stay).  

So again I would suggest that the whole album is a critique of Nazi / Nietzschean philosophy - but not a total rejection of it. Like him alone in his bed in Queen bitch, in the wasteland of a failed philosophy (I don&#039;t have the power anymore) longing for something a bit more earthy and loving (Kooks, song for Bob Dylan) or glam (the Warhol scene).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Bowie was saying he is a Nazi (living proof of Churchill&#8217;s lies that the Nazi&#8217;s had been vanquished) but that he is also disenchanted with the whole occult Nazi philosophy and scheme (I&#8217;m frightened by the total goal, drawn toward the ragged hole). </p>
<p>I also believe the whole album Hunky Dory pivots on this theme. </p>
<p>Bowie had just had a kid and was wanting a happier simpler life and so was becoming critical and weary of the Nazi philosophy. He is not rejecting these ideas totally however and song for Bob Dylan is quite openly hostile to Dylan&#8217;s Judaism and even accusing of Dylan (as a jew) of stealing his unity and (simpler) family (values). </p>
<p>The reason I think people have so much trouble understanding this album is that they tend to be very black and white about things like Nazism and secret societies and so it is hard to see that a person can be a Nazi but also be growing tired and cynical about the whole thing. </p>
<p>The Bewlay brothers seems very plainly about whoever was running the occult society meetings Bowie was part of &#8211; including references to where they were held and what went on at them. Again the tone is jaded weary and even somewhat frightened &#8211; but still there is the sentimental memory of what these meetings once evoked in him in the past. </p>
<p>I am not certain about the Velvet Underground song Queen Bitch but I think it might be Bowie kind of lamenting that he didn&#8217;t join that scene instead &#8211; because as he says in the song &#8220;Oh lord I could do better than that&#8221; so maybe Queen bitch is Andy Warhol &#8211; mentioned again but veiled &#8211; and Bowie is saying he could have taken over that scene (it could have been me &#8211; why didn&#8217;t I stay).  </p>
<p>So again I would suggest that the whole album is a critique of Nazi / Nietzschean philosophy &#8211; but not a total rejection of it. Like him alone in his bed in Queen bitch, in the wasteland of a failed philosophy (I don&#8217;t have the power anymore) longing for something a bit more earthy and loving (Kooks, song for Bob Dylan) or glam (the Warhol scene).</p>
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		<title>By: Moonage</title>
		<link>http://bowie.moonagewebdream.com/2006/06/05/quicksand/comment-page-1#comment-844</link>
		<dc:creator>Moonage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bowie wasn&#039;t practicing then, that came several years later.  The song is about convincing people to believe in someone, it&#039;s not specifically about Himmler or Crowley.  So focusing on the specifics of either person serves no point in either the song or here. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bowie wasn&#8217;t practicing then, that came several years later.  The song is about convincing people to believe in someone, it&#8217;s not specifically about Himmler or Crowley.  So focusing on the specifics of either person serves no point in either the song or here.</p>
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		<title>By: jimmy</title>
		<link>http://bowie.moonagewebdream.com/2006/06/05/quicksand/comment-page-1#comment-843</link>
		<dc:creator>jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what? you started off good. but for someone who claims to have looked into this your quite flawed! if bowie thinks crowley was full of shit, then why is he a follower of his religion thelema? also the relation between himler (being one of the head nazis) and nazi symbolism (being purely masonic) and crowley. when crowley was a 33rd degree scotish rite freemason?? I think youve made a great effort here but i think theres more too it. I apologise for the poor spelling and grammar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what? you started off good. but for someone who claims to have looked into this your quite flawed! if bowie thinks crowley was full of shit, then why is he a follower of his religion thelema? also the relation between himler (being one of the head nazis) and nazi symbolism (being purely masonic) and crowley. when crowley was a 33rd degree scotish rite freemason?? I think youve made a great effort here but i think theres more too it. I apologise for the poor spelling and grammar.</p>
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		<title>By: Jasont</title>
		<link>http://bowie.moonagewebdream.com/2006/06/05/quicksand/comment-page-1#comment-835</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 05:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that bowie saying their isn&#039;t a god or supreme spiritual being or something like that. For instance the line &quot;bullshit faith&quot; is only specifically saying faiths of bullshit.  Crowley couldve been bullshit it also could have not been bullshit.  Do we know that for sure?  Himler was also very involved in the occult like the vril society, who was supposed to be in contact with entities using mediums.   So I think he&#039;s just naming these things because he thinks them to be fabulous and is confused by the enormity of their implications... What if crowley was on yo&#039; something.  What I Himmlers search for the occult did turn up certain truth to lost arts and artifacts.  I mean obviously people in power want to stay in power so even if forms of channeling energy, black magic, or supernatural entities are accessible it wouldn&#039;t be strategical to reveal them, would it?  I guess we will know deaths release and all the knowledge when we get there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that bowie saying their isn&#8217;t a god or supreme spiritual being or something like that. For instance the line &#8220;bullshit faith&#8221; is only specifically saying faiths of bullshit.  Crowley couldve been bullshit it also could have not been bullshit.  Do we know that for sure?  Himler was also very involved in the occult like the vril society, who was supposed to be in contact with entities using mediums.   So I think he&#8217;s just naming these things because he thinks them to be fabulous and is confused by the enormity of their implications&#8230; What if crowley was on yo&#8217; something.  What I Himmlers search for the occult did turn up certain truth to lost arts and artifacts.  I mean obviously people in power want to stay in power so even if forms of channeling energy, black magic, or supernatural entities are accessible it wouldn&#8217;t be strategical to reveal them, would it?  I guess we will know deaths release and all the knowledge when we get there.</p>
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		<title>By: Moonage</title>
		<link>http://bowie.moonagewebdream.com/2006/06/05/quicksand/comment-page-1#comment-699</link>
		<dc:creator>Moonage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, almost forgot, excellent comment, please visit ( and comment ) more often!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, almost forgot, excellent comment, please visit ( and comment ) more often!</p>
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		<title>By: Moonage</title>
		<link>http://bowie.moonagewebdream.com/2006/06/05/quicksand/comment-page-1#comment-698</link>
		<dc:creator>Moonage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think he singles out Christianity, as he was dabbling in several religions and/or faiths at the time.  I take that particular line as meaning believing in something else is bullshit whether it&#039;s religion or an idol or political leader, or whatever.  Although I tied the Crowley/religion connection together due to the explanation of someone else, I more often think the two lines of thought are not connected at all.  He&#039;s sinking in the quicksand of his thought, thoughts meander.  He&#039;s just flowing with whatever thoughts come into his mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think he singles out Christianity, as he was dabbling in several religions and/or faiths at the time.  I take that particular line as meaning believing in something else is bullshit whether it&#8217;s religion or an idol or political leader, or whatever.  Although I tied the Crowley/religion connection together due to the explanation of someone else, I more often think the two lines of thought are not connected at all.  He&#8217;s sinking in the quicksand of his thought, thoughts meander.  He&#8217;s just flowing with whatever thoughts come into his mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Kil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m tethered to the logic of Homo Sapien
Can’t take my eyes from the great salvation
Of bullshit faith&quot;

I read this as a reference to the invention of religion as a great salvation, and Bowie&#039;s conclusion that religion (especially Christianity)is bullshit, as is the faith.But human logic says there must be something Godlike, and he is tied to that because of his upbringing/culture.
His references to Himmler/Crowley are merely tangents of thought,comparisons, or if you like examples, of people who see things completely differently to the western model. THere is no way either of these men could have subscribed to the concept of God/Heaven v. Hell.

I think Bowie is clearly saying &quot; There is no God, Religion is a lie, why are we here? what is the point?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m tethered to the logic of Homo Sapien<br />
Can’t take my eyes from the great salvation<br />
Of bullshit faith&#8221;</p>
<p>I read this as a reference to the invention of religion as a great salvation, and Bowie&#8217;s conclusion that religion (especially Christianity)is bullshit, as is the faith.But human logic says there must be something Godlike, and he is tied to that because of his upbringing/culture.<br />
His references to Himmler/Crowley are merely tangents of thought,comparisons, or if you like examples, of people who see things completely differently to the western model. THere is no way either of these men could have subscribed to the concept of God/Heaven v. Hell.</p>
<p>I think Bowie is clearly saying &#8221; There is no God, Religion is a lie, why are we here? what is the point?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Londonboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Londonboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 01:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow..thanks for posting this and glad i got you thinking on tihs one. I had quite forgotten about the David Bowie and the occult article. It is alleged that Bowie has tried to to stop this article from being formally printed. You can only find this over the internet. Bowie has defintley dabled in the occult and the occult is a theme running through Bowies music. I think for Bowie though the occult is a search for spirituality. It reappears very strongly on ther Station to station album and particuarly the title song. Bowie was into Kabala way before Madonna discoverd it and Sold it to the world. STS was recorded on 1976 and Bowie was strung out on  cocaine. At the time he was having his nail clippings kept and other strange things as he was so paranoid about evil spirits. Allegedly he even had his swimming pool in LA exorcised. ( def. the side effects of the cocaine)

For years and years i thought that the bardo in Quicksand was a reference to Bridget Bardot though the lyric sheet on Hunky Dory does spell &#039;B A R D O&#039;. A toatlly fascinating song. BTW I disagree with you about teh music itself. The acoustic guitars, especially at the beginning are excellent. Now can you please decipher the bewlay Brothers! Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow..thanks for posting this and glad i got you thinking on tihs one. I had quite forgotten about the David Bowie and the occult article. It is alleged that Bowie has tried to to stop this article from being formally printed. You can only find this over the internet. Bowie has defintley dabled in the occult and the occult is a theme running through Bowies music. I think for Bowie though the occult is a search for spirituality. It reappears very strongly on ther Station to station album and particuarly the title song. Bowie was into Kabala way before Madonna discoverd it and Sold it to the world. STS was recorded on 1976 and Bowie was strung out on  cocaine. At the time he was having his nail clippings kept and other strange things as he was so paranoid about evil spirits. Allegedly he even had his swimming pool in LA exorcised. ( def. the side effects of the cocaine)</p>
<p>For years and years i thought that the bardo in Quicksand was a reference to Bridget Bardot though the lyric sheet on Hunky Dory does spell &#8216;B A R D O&#8217;. A toatlly fascinating song. BTW I disagree with you about teh music itself. The acoustic guitars, especially at the beginning are excellent. Now can you please decipher the bewlay Brothers! Thanks</p>
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